
Since getting the PASSION back, I run into old pirates like myself more often , Billy Cilia and myself come from the same ship and for over 40 years have created and played with many surfboards. I dropped out of surfboard making while Bill continued to make many,many boards for many dam good surfers ,and deservedly gained a fine reputation in both shape and quality. I see Bill a fair bit, and this photo about sums us up, and another of the many things we have, a passion about is ," GHOST WHO WALKS WHO CAN NEVER DIE"........ THE PHANTOM ..... comics.